Widow of American soldier killed in Afghanistan won approval Wednesday to place a Wiccan religious symbol
Lizz-Bizz
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Monday, 2nd of August 2010 04:35:53 PM
Opinions ? Wiccan religious symbol was placed on his memorial Lizz-Bizz plaque.
Personally l believe''FREEDOM OF RELIGION'' is a Registered User rightguaranteed to all of us .
He was a follower of the Wiccan Joined: Wednesday, 12th of May 2010, 03:04:39 religion and posthumously awarded the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. Posts: 1638 />Answerman ....sorry to burst your bubble but l am a REPUBLICAN and a Navy Viewed 3638 times veteran
Angel Baby
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Tuesday, 3rd of August 2010 12:11:40 PM
If he was really a Wiccan, they would want to keep it secret it Angel Baby anyway. Most fluffies have never heard of the Wiccan Law of Magic which is Registered User To Know, To Will, To Dare, & (this is the toughie for most for some Joined: Sunday, 2nd of May 2010, 06:54:04 reason) To Keep Silent. Posts: 1644 Viewed 6429 times Advertising you're a Wiccan is not keeping silent! This woman is just
trying to draw attention to herself (and succeeding I am afraid). Yes, I
am all for freedom of religion, & part of my religion is not blabbing
about it to everybody!
My answer: No! Keep it secret!
Flame
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Wednesday, 4th of August 2010 04:28:56 AM
Like you said, freedom of religion. Flame Registered User Joined: Saturday, 1st of May 2010, 08:48:50 Posts: 971 Viewed 3594 times
Baby Brunette
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Thursday, 5th of August 2010 03:53:25 PM
You have the story wrong, Baby Brunette The State of Nevada is putting the symbol as part of it is Veterans Registered User Cemetery. The Veterans Administration has say if it goes on his Joined: Sunday, 9th of May 2010, 06:42:53 headstone. To date, the VA does not recognize the Wiccan religious Posts: 799 symbol. The State runs the cemetery through funds provided from the VA. Viewed 3222 times
Snugaroo
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Friday, 6th of August 2010 04:56:31 PM
it was approved as an official religion by the army couple Snugaroo years back, they can actually put in for leave or 4 day pass for their Registered User religious days, the CO usually takes it to the chaplin to get it confirmed Joined: Thursday, 29th of April 2010, 01:41:32 & if it does/did not conflict with mission critical training or current Posts: 867 operations, they usually got it like any other soldier with a religious Viewed 2872 times leave request
there is actually a phamplet out there for commanders about Wiccanism that
I saw since its an official religion now, usually i pass it along to my 6 &
he takes it to the padre
baba(baby)
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Saturday, 7th of August 2010 07:54:26 AM
GOOD FOR HER!!!! baba(baby) Registered User The military is about ensuring the freedoms and rights of US citizens are Joined: Sunday, 6th of June 2010, 13:46:29 upheld. When we are buried, we should have the same rights as anyone Posts: 1298 else. Unfortunately, the military hasn't come around to changing the Viewed 16579 times regulations (old regs disallowed any religious symbol on a headstone from
the VA, except a cross) Perhaps this will bring them into the 21st
century.
Note: I am not a Wiccan, but I do believe that we should be able to
express our FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
Gup
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Sunday, 8th of August 2010 01:27:12 AM
I do not have a problem with it. Gup Registered User Joined: Tuesday, 22nd of June 2010, 02:09:57 Posts: 533 Viewed 16277 times
guppy
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Monday, 9th of August 2010 01:47:46 PM
he earned that right guppy Registered User Joined: Thursday, 27th of May 2010, 05:30:49 Posts: 170 Viewed 8671 times
Offy
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Tuesday, 10th of August 2010 12:49:52 PM
Why did she have to ''win approval''???? The man gave his life Offy for his country, for heaven is sakes. Shouldn't he and his family have the Registered User right to express and symbolize their own religion??? Joined: Monday, 14th of June 2010, 07:35:05 Posts: 148 Viewed 12685 times
Cabbage Patch
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Wednesday, 11th of August 2010 04:45:19 AM
This was a clear First Amendment issue that could only have Cabbage Patch come out the way it did. It reflects very poorly on our military that Registered User they delayed and obstructed the way that they did, but it is typical of Joined: Wednesday, 26th of May 2010, 17:35:35 the manner in which some Christians in this country believe they have the Posts: 710 privilege of denying non-Christians their basic freedoms. Viewed 1226 times
butt face
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Thursday, 12th of August 2010 11:00:00 AM
Wicca is & old & established religion similar to the one used butt face by the Druids who built Stonehenge (so it is older than Islam & Registered User Christianity.) It was considered Witchcraft by the Christians so it has Joined: Saturday, 1st of May 2010, 13:16:52 been greatly discredited Posts: 791 Viewed 4482 times It is still a valid religion & receiving more & more recognition now days.
If the couple were Wiccans then I have no problem with using that symbol
on the husband is tombstone.
Wiccia has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Devil or Satan, they don't
even recognize such an entity, that is a Jewish & hence a Christian
concept. The alliance with Satan was made by the Christians trying to
discredit the religion & brand its supporters as witches. As in the bible
quote ''thou shall not suffer a witch to live.''
While Wiccians may be witches & warlocks they are following Gaea, the
Mother Earth concept, they are not dealing with angels & devils, despite
what the TV series Charmed showed. True Wiccians would shudder at that
show.
''Wicca is a religion, & although its adherents often identify as witches,
Wicca & witchcraft are not necessarily the same thing.''
Besides our government was founded on the freedom of religion, it says so
in the First Amendment, it is a recognized religion so the wife should
have just as much right to use her symbol as would a Moslem, a Jew, or a
Christian.
babylove
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Friday, 13th of August 2010 02:04:19 AM
Good for her, personally I don't think she should've had to babylove fight to get that done. Her husband died for his country. The least they Registered User could do was honor his choice of religion like they do for every other Joined: Friday, 7th of May 2010, 22:56:06 soldier. Posts: 291 Viewed 1331 times
Stewie
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Saturday, 14th of August 2010 08:46:38 AM
It is fine. Curious as to why she needed approval. Stewie Registered User Joined: Monday, 10th of May 2010, 16:21:30 Posts: 1403 Viewed 5949 times
pebbles
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Sunday, 15th of August 2010 06:11:40 AM
The man died for his country - he has thereby earned the right pebbles to put a pentagram on his memorial if thats what he really wanted! Registered User Joined: Wednesday, 9th of June 2010, 04:00:52 Sometimes it just takes a big push to get the military to think outside Posts: 93 the box - I didnt think it was ever really going to be denied - they just Viewed 16894 times had to put forth the legislation to add it to the collection of symbols
they had in ''inventory'' - glad to hear it went through - and thats
actually pretty quick for a government action.
Studley Dooright
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Monday, 16th of August 2010 07:30:06 AM
Won approval? Are you sure about that? Maybe she just had to Studley Dooright request it. She got what she wanted, so what is the big deal? Registered User Joined: Wednesday, 9th of June 2010, 22:16:58 Posts: 932 Viewed 12012 times
12 pack
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Tuesday, 17th of August 2010 09:00:41 AM
Why shouldn't he be allowed a Wicca symbol? That was his 12 pack religion or whatever it is considered. He wasn't Chrisitan so why would Registered User they put a cross on it or a Star of David since he wasn't Jewish?? That Joined: Saturday, 8th of May 2010, 10:34:23 is what freedom of religion means. No one should have to fight for Posts: 836 approval for something like that. Viewed 3264 times
Snuggley bear
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Wednesday, 18th of August 2010 02:54:04 AM
Oh Oh the repuglicans isn't going to like this, it could be a Snuggley bear bad movie. Registered User Joined: Friday, 21st of May 2010, 22:23:44 Posts: 671 Viewed 15123 times
Cookie Lipz
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Thursday, 19th of August 2010 01:33:23 AM
I think the symbol should be on his memorial plaque or anywhere Cookie Lipz else they want to put it. Registered User Joined: Sunday, 20th of June 2010, 13:01:41 Posts: 1174 Viewed 18922 times
Beboo
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Friday, 20th of August 2010 05:40:51 PM
It is a nonissue. At least it should be. Beboo Registered User Joined: Thursday, 20th of May 2010, 22:40:18 Posts: 1453 Viewed 5438 times
lolli
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Saturday, 21st of August 2010 04:30:48 AM
Won approval? Who felt they had the right to either grant or lolli deny approval of the symbol this widow wished to place on his memorial Registered User plaque? FREEDOM of speech, FREEDOM of religion. As far as I know, that Joined: Saturday, 22nd of May 2010, 14:20:21 soldier believed in those things just as much as he did his faith. Posts: 689 Viewed 10558 times
Curious Cookie
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Sunday, 22nd of August 2010 08:51:25 PM
I agree with you. Curious Cookie Registered User Joined: Friday, 28th of May 2010, 18:58:14 Posts: 1388 Viewed 9970 times
snugems
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Monday, 23rd of August 2010 02:45:50 PM
Fine with me. snugems Registered User Joined: Friday, 7th of May 2010, 12:08:12 Posts: 67 Viewed 13674 times
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